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Of course

4:01 PM

I'm proud to have her and I always will be

Just as with coming out in any situation, make sure that you are safe (from abuse by others, be it physical, mental, or emotional), secure (financially), and preferably supported by other friends nearby - though you will certainly have support of people here.

^

If it comes up, and you need to lie to stay safe and secure... Then it is worth seriously considering doing so.

4:08 PM

...even if it is not ideal.

yup for both of your safety, she'll understand

Probably for the best

Safety first.

4:10 PM

For the same reason, seek mental help if you do feel you need, such as if things feel as if they are spiraling out of control and you can't control your emotions. Please don't rely on your tulpa to be able to support you and stabilize you in all situations. A tulpa is never a replacement for professional help.

[Really though? Couldn't we be a replacement. The whole it doesn't solve issues seems more like arbitrary "proper" saying than actual truth]

...certainly a tulpa can solve issues, just like a person can solve their own issues, or just like friendship can help with depression. But tulpas should not be considered a replacement for mental help, or physical friendships, or anything that they can help provide.

4:15 PM

It certainly isn't an arbitrary statement - people who have mental health problems should not make a tulpa as a "solution".

That's a little obvious but I get where someone can think something like that

[Why not? I always say it's not the reason but how you get on with your tulpa that matters. I don't see the difference here.] (edited)

you shouldn't expect them to "fix you". That's too much burden to place on anyone, especially someone created for that purpose.

More than enough people come in saying they want to make a tulpa to deal with their anxiety or depression... And they shouldn't be mislead and told that a tulpa will necessarily help or that making a tulpa is an actual treatment for whatever they are going through.

Imagine if your parents wanted you to do the same thing for them?

️ not sure if im a beginer or not. This is the third time ive existed. Im a tulpa. I want to make myself more seperate and real. I... ive always had trouble with that even when i was full fronting

...in other words, if somebody wants to make a tulpa to help, that's fine. But they should not consider it to be aid instead of professional help.

[But if it actually does absolve the problem(particulary in cases like anxiety and depression) Then isn't that not misleading?]

️ i hold a lot of my hosts trauma its not fun. It didnt nesisarily help. It didnt just go away.

4:18 PM

️ theyre fine now and healthy and im back and im still fucked up

4:18 PM

️ to be fair im probubly traumagenic

Whats with the little emoji shit before everything you say

️ fo its my quirk

4:20 PM

️ how else would you know whose talking?

Okay lmao

Tulpas share the same brain so those issues will effect them too...

4:20 PM

Use Name/ Or Name:

Type the name first, use brackets use different accounts (edited)

There are plenty of other ways to express who is talking, but that's a heavy deviation from the topic.

️ thats still a quirk.

Because, Silina, first of all - nobody here is anywhere near qualified to diagnose a genuine mental problem. And second, tulpas have not demonstrated that they provide help beyond what companionship does in general. They can be beneficial, but they are not a solution in and of themselves. Creating a tulpa for that reason alone, without considering everything else that comes with making a tulpa, is extremely irresponsible.

Yeah okay sure dude. Thats your thing. I aint hatin

4:21 PM

Wow

I will say, @☔𝚏𝚘𝚞𝚕𝚠𝚎𝚊𝚝𝚑𝚎𝚛𝙵𝚛𝚒𝚎𝚗𝚍𝚜☔, there are at least more effective ways of showing who is talking.

I think tulpas are helpful beyond campanionship

4:22 PM

Cause okay take for example

️ this is the way I talk.

Like when I was hardcore trying to lose weight

[Bah. I don't buy the whole not qualified thing. And while I agree that you have to consider the other consequences of tulpas I don't see that as something that changes that tulpas have a high chance of solving the issue itself as well. Or even having that as a primary reason(as long as you also consider the consequences)]

Tulpas can make mental problems better but it's very hard to make them go away, especially when they affect the tulpa too

Oh, there are ways they can be helpful beyond that. But, in terms of direct mental health support... There are studies showing an average benefit, but nothing clearly shown beyond companionship.

If I wanted to eat something I shouldn't

4:23 PM

I would swotch with Harlo

4:23 PM

And she could resist it because she was doing it for someone she cares for

Granted, there also aren't many studies into it.

4:24 PM

I can switch with Skye to dull the effects of panic attacks... But then, they don't happen in the first place if she is physically with somebody else.

Okay. Idk if my phone sent that or went fucking stupid or what

4:25 PM

Or if it sent a million times or what. Sometimes my phone just freaks out on here.

@Sete Diagnosis via text chat is... Quite definitely armchair psychology rather than a professional diagnosis. Suggestions for possibilities are one thing - actual diagnosis or recommendation of treatment with experience and training behind it is quite different.

But anyways. Yeah. Tulpas can help in other ways. To me, it's like a way to convince yourself that youre someone else amd then you can love that person and treat them, and as a result, yourself as someone you care for.

So, no. A random person on the internet suggesting a tulpa as a "solution" to a mental disorder or other significant life stress is quite different than seeking help from a qualified and experienced professional.

Oh yeah

4:27 PM

Don't make a tulpa to cure mental illness. Thats dumb

In short, just... Don't be irresponsible with mental health.

4:29 PM

And don't be irresponsible with making a tulpa.

4:29 PM

The two quite neatly coincide.

like, there's so many layers of indirection happening when one would suggest you through the internet to make a tulpa to fix your own problems (edited)

5:09 PM

it's beyond risky into full-on inadvisable

Yes.

Yeah, I think forming tulpas to deal with mental health issues might have a negative effect on both yourself and the tulpa. Not excluding the positive effects, that is. Because if you rely on your tulpa and isolate yourself from others (like I did, to some degree), it’s really not healthy. And it’s not fair on your tulpa either. Being in a bad mental space makes you uncomfortable to be with. Using a tulpa for that is just that-using them. It’s not an equal relationship and that can be really damaging or stunting, in my experience, for the tulpa.

When is a good time to switch? Do tulpas just randomly switch, or do they usually do it for a reason?

You can switch for any reason. Switching generally is intentional, though sometimes others in the head can be pulled towards the front if there is something that interests them going on.

If you do plan to switch, communication is key.

Switching is an intentional act, usually. Do not listen to horror stories saying that it can be done against your will, though. Whenever you consider yourself ready is a good time.

The tulpa should communicate why they wish to switch - or if already switched, why the host wishes to switch back. Communicate if it is a good time or not.

8:48 PM

...communication is simply key. Period.

I do agree.

8:49 PM

Though, usually, for us, this is done instantly.

Indeed. Once you have switched enough, it becomes fairly easy to tell when it is a good time or not - and minimal additional communication is needed.

8:51 PM

But then, you shouldn't be switching until you have firmly established mutual trust.

I do agree.

If i narrate to my tulpa more is it more likely that he or she will talk to me soon

Possibly.

The more you interact with them, the faster and more thoroughly they develop, yes. But - "soon" is quite relative.

9:05 PM

People often get a first response within a month, but consistent responses can take quite a bit longer.

It is the same as anything else. The more work you put it, the better the results.

Indeed.

A month? I thought it was much longer than that. Perhaps, I was just slow.

A first response, mind.

the times are all over the place really

...one that is clearly identifiable as the tulpa.

Yes, I did think it took longer. (edited)

Hah.

It may have just taken me some time, longer than usual and my view is skewed.

Well - as you can see, it can certainly take longer than that as well.

Err. That is six times longer than average.

9:09 PM

Strange.

9:10 PM

Is that based on the census, Winter? Or personal observation?

Hm?

9:10 PM

For first responses?

️ Any advice for forcing while at work?

Yes. The average time.

I stated "within a month" as I have seen quite a few take longer - I am also accounting for people being overzealous in their assuming that a response is their tulpa (since there was the phrase "always assume it is your tulpa" floating about - and unfortunately still is).

Lots of talking @☔𝚏𝚘𝚞𝚕𝚠𝚎𝚊𝚝𝚑𝚎𝚛𝙵𝚛𝚒𝚎𝚗𝚍𝚜☔ We also enjoyed singing together

Do you disagree, Winter?

With the idea that one should assume all possible responses are one's tulpa?

Yes.